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[AK]Palooka
03-13-2008, 10:56 AM
http://jspringman.com/ultimate_test.jpg

VMware Fusion has changed my life.

[AK]Bribo
03-13-2008, 11:07 AM
I'll be loading it tomorrow. :)

[AK]Palooka
03-13-2008, 11:36 AM
FYI, I accomplished that with two XP virtual machines--one with IE6 and one with IE7. I'm running each VM in Unity mode. Being able to test in IE6, IE7, Win/FF, and Mac/FF all at the same time is a huge boon to me.

[AK]Squidly
03-13-2008, 11:47 AM
This stuff is great for developers, or users with vital "must have apps" that they need to run for work, say.

I strongly believe that new adopters should stay away for awhile...maybe a couple months.

And for heaven's sake DON'T do something silly like run outlook in a VMwindow. Stay the hell away from windows browsers. Learn the new conventions and paradigms. Use the Mac apps. Once you master them and internalize the way things are done on the Mac, you'll find you need none of the old crap anymore.

And If gaming is your thing, dual booting is the way to go, because a VM solution is always going to impact you in the types of games you are interested in.

[AK]Swae
03-13-2008, 11:55 AM
I feel completely intimidated and stupified by this thread.

Just sayin....:confused:

[AK]Palooka
03-13-2008, 12:02 PM
I agree with you, Squidly. These VMs are purely for browser testing; I have no intention of running any other Windows apps unless absolutely necessary. I didn't buy a Mac just so I could go back to using Windows! :)

I was a UNIX guy stuck in a Windows world until now.

[AK]Bribo
03-13-2008, 12:41 PM
How much memory do you have installed on your Mac?

[AK]Palooka
03-13-2008, 12:51 PM
4 gigs

[AK]Squidly
03-13-2008, 01:35 PM
Palooka;78369']I agree with you, Squidly. These VMs are purely for browser testing; I have no intention of running any other Windows apps unless absolutely necessary. I didn't buy a Mac just so I could go back to using Windows! :)


Yeah, that was directed at Bribo. :)

[AK]Bribo
03-14-2008, 04:49 AM
There are certain things that simply will not run under OSX - namely Steam, Counterstrike Source, HL2, and QW). While I will undoubtably find replacements for my "utility" apps I'm sure I will need to set up a WinXP partition for these one-offs.

I have no intention of making the new machine a Windows machine or spending any more time in Windows that I don't have to by necessity.

VMWare Fusion is highly cool though and the thought of having a whole WinXP system running inside a window on my Mac makes my nipples hard.

[AK]StitchJones
03-14-2008, 05:11 AM
Bribo;78407']VMWare Fusion is highly cool though and the thought of having a whole WinXP system running inside a window on my Mac makes my nipples hard. Good lord, picturing Bribo with hard nipples... I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight.... Maybe I shouldn't have given you VMWare... I've created a monster.

[AK]Rocks
03-14-2008, 05:45 AM
Can;t believe u didn;t loaded linux too, to get Super Geek Status!

[AK]StitchJones
03-14-2008, 05:52 AM
Rocks;78417']Can;t believe u didn;t loaded linux too, to get Super Geek Status! Palooka likes to show off in stages. He didn't want to choke us out all at once. I'm sure he's prepping a Linux post to come.

[AK]The Beast
03-28-2008, 08:26 AM
I just got my new MacBook yesterday, and I'm loving the VMware fusion platform. I even have my BootCamp Windows partition running as a virtual machine. The only "gotcha" with doing that is that right now, I have to reload my graphics driver every time I reboot straight into Vista with Boot Camp. Does anyone know a way around that (other than "uninstall Vista"?)

Update: that problem disappeared after the first post-VM boot into Vista. Looks like the OS just needed to get its mind around the difference between the virtual graphics and onboard adapter.

[AK]StitchJones
03-28-2008, 02:51 PM
Beast!! welcome to the light side!

[AK]Palooka
03-28-2008, 04:00 PM
If all goes according to plan, this will be a Microsoft-free zone by year-end.

[AK]Hylander
03-28-2008, 06:09 PM
Palooka;79425']If all goes according to plan, this will be a Microsoft-free zone by year-end.

So we'll no longer be a gaming site huh? ;)

[AK]Squidly
03-28-2008, 07:07 PM
You're still not clear on the VMWare/Bootcamp thing, are you, Hy?

[AK]Hylander
03-29-2008, 05:32 AM
Squidly;79429']You're still not clear on the VMWare/Bootcamp thing, are you, Hy?

I'm perfectly clear.. you're still running Windows.

[AK]Squidly
03-29-2008, 06:17 AM
Palooka should've said "PC free zone", I guess.

[AK]Hylander
03-29-2008, 07:39 AM
Squidly;79443']Palooka should've said "PC free zone", I guess.


Well if we can convert, say, another 15% - 20% "PC / Windows" users over to MAC... the gaming environment will take care of itself. ;)

Just put me down in the "wannabe" on a MAC list... at some point it WILL happen. Or color me envy green.

I'm not exaggerating that I know at least 10 acquaintances/friends who have purchased a MAC (new and/or used) in the last 6 months.

[AK]Bribo
03-29-2008, 08:11 AM
It's a result of Microsoft's self-inflicted wound (i.e.. Vista).

[AK]Hylander
03-29-2008, 09:53 AM
Bribo;79446']It's a result of Microsoft's self-inflicted wound (i.e.. Vista).

You are absolutely right. Don't get me wrong though, I like WindowsXP. In fact, if they simply made DirectX10 for WinXP I'd probably still be very content and happy for awhile. (No, I'm not comparing WinXP to OSX as I love OSX and it's elegance - I just happen to think XP is a pretty solid OS and it's a shame MS crashed and burned with VISTA).

Slaughter
03-29-2008, 10:57 AM
Vista is the new ME, I'll officially say that now.

Its ok though, Windows 7 is on its way guys... lol.

[AK]Choozoo
03-31-2008, 04:54 AM
want to be non-pc, but mac prices scare you? get some wine.

i just grabbed a new hp on the cheap, and I'll be installing ubuntu this morning. (believe me, i'd buy a mac if i had visual studio for the mac.)

i have got a feeling that wow will run better in linux.

for instance, i have an old pc at home. P IV 2.0ghz, 786MB RAM, 256MB Nvidia 66xx series. i get about 21 FPS with everything turned down. that is just around what I remember wow running at before...

the laptop will be a good test.
i'll post results.

wine will bring life to old hardware :)

[AK]Hylander
03-31-2008, 05:38 AM
Choozoo;79488']want to be non-pc, but mac prices scare you? get some wine.

i just grabbed a new hp on the cheap, and I'll be installing ubuntu this morning. (believe me, i'd buy a mac if i had visual studio for the mac.)

i have got a feeling that wow will run better in linux.

for instance, i have an old pc at home. P IV 2.0ghz, 786MB RAM, 256MB Nvidia 66xx series. i get about 21 FPS with everything turned down. that is just around what I remember wow running at before...

the laptop will be a good test.
i'll post results.

wine will bring life to old hardware :)

I actually have an Ubuntu box at home built on an old Gateway PC. Although I've never played with Wine before.

[AK]The Beast
04-01-2008, 10:12 AM
OK, here's my new MacBook question. Is there a way I can create a task or script so that I can put an icon on my desk or in my dock to restart the computer from the BootCamp partition? I have the Steam version of Civ 4 and it doesn't play friendly with VMware.

[AK]Bribo
04-01-2008, 10:33 AM
I think this is what you are asking for:

http://rainbowlazer.com/?p=26

A two line Applescript that you can put in your dock that will work as a switcher for your Boot Camp partitions.

For those too lazy to go into Apple > System Preferences > Startup Disk :lol2: