My prediction about the election.

[[AK]Sonic Boom]

I'd sworn off this forum for quite awhile but thought I'd do a random drive-by with my prediction, starting the morning of November 6th.

All year long, this race has been too close to call. Millions of dollars later and only one month to go, its probably going to remain that way.

If you thought Bush losing the popular vote and getting elected by a still-disputed 547 vote margin in Florida was interesting, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

I predict that the election will be close enough in numerous states to elicit both sides to initiate massive recounts and legal challenges. Both sides have enlisted armies of attorneys nationwide and already have in place legal Überteams to contest razor-thin statewide elections.

I predict that it will be the ugliest, most decisive post-election in American history and that it will occupy and divide the nation's attention for months with agonizing challenges from both sides.

I hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling that this election is going to be an absolute mess, with the looming spectre of a possible delay of the inauguration. Ultimately, Democracy will survive and hopefully be strengthened, but it may signal the beginning of the end of the Electoral College.

Although I've rarely seen eye-to-eye politically with most August Knights, we can agree that we all love our country; we just differ on our views on how to make it better.

Once again, I hope I'm wrong but if I'm not, you heard it here first.

[Slaughter]

I have a feeling they'll never get rid of the Electoral system.. Popular Vote is not the way to go, IMHO.

[[AK]Squidly]

I predict a Republican victory, one that won't be particularly close.

I also predict that that the loony left will spontaneously combust in a flurry of wild claims and conspiracy theories. They've already set the stage with nonsensical statements by functional idiots like President Carter. The media will give this minority a disproportionate amount of attention.

I'm still looking for one of you folk who support the leftist ideology to provide me with a logical argument in favor of their ideas. Explain again how more taxes on the job builders is going to improve our economy... (which is currently booming.) Explain how cutting our intelligence and military is going to make us safer? How waiting until we get hit to respond (and even then only with complete unanimous UN approval) is going to save American lives here at home.

None of the ideas espoused by the left stand up to close examination. I'm willing to be convinced, but usually all I get is a motto, slogan, or chant. Maybe if I'm lucky a picture of Bush with a little mustache.
None of the ideas espoused by the left have stood up to the "global test" of history. It's a sorry record of failure.

I think most Americans realize that this time around.

[[AK]Abaddon]

Squidly ... don't you realize that taxing the hell out of people who actually succeed so you can give it away to their less-fortunate comrades is the ONLY way to run a government? If we just take all the money away from the people who earn it, and give it to those who don't, all will be well. /sarcasm off.

Bush just signed in four more years of tax cuts today ... and that directly benefits me and my decidedly middle-class family. Do I care that rich people, receiving the same tax break, actually saved MORE money in taxes, because they earned more and paid more? No.

I do care that the Dems slipped a provision into the original tax cut bill to give the $1,000 child credit (tax refund) to people who did not make enough to pay taxes. That's just money taken away from those who contributed to the tax base.

[[AK]Hylander]

I predict that the margin of victory will be larger than most think for Bush. Not a landslide, but nowhere near as close as the last one.

The Liberals have no foundation, and Kerry is a flat out liar and I believe more and more people are realizing it. The positions he doesn't lie about, he is just flat out wrong on. He accuses President Bush of spending money on Iraq instead of at home. So in other words, Kerry believes in spending money on social programs over defending out country. If that is not short sightedness, I don't know what is.

When was the last time a poor person provided you with employment opportunities?

How can you give tax cuts to those who don't pay any, or much, to begin with? Yes - wealth redistribution. The staple of the Liberal / Socialist way.

As I've said before, when the Clinton's look preferential to the candidate for the Democratic party - you know this country is in grave danger.

Just wondering, did you guys know Kerry was in Vietnam? I was just curious as he only mentioned it about 80 or 90 times during the debate and I hope you didn't miss that fact. But then again, he spent more time in the debate than he did in Vietnam. </sarcasm>

[[AK]Squidly]

I'm still waiting for someone to step up and tell me how Kerry's plan for America is better.

Lets go...I'm ready.

[Slaughter]

He mentioned Vietnam once in the debate.. not that I'm defending him.

Though as many times as he mentioned it over the past few months you just wish he would drop it. Manchurian Candidate anyone?

[[AK]Bribo]

Bush needs to attack him on his record. He didn't last debate. He needs to show Kerry for what he is - one of the top ten liberals in Congress with the voting record to prove it.

[Slaughter]

He attacked his voting record on Iraq.

[[AK]Hylander]

He mentioned Vietnam once in the debate.. not that I'm defending him.

He mentioned it numerous times. He 'eluded' to it over and over with reference to knowing what it's like being in combat situations and referring to public opinion and funding.

[[AK]Hylander]

Bush needs to attack him on his record. He didn't last debate. He needs to show Kerry for what he is - one of the top ten liberals in Congress with the voting record to prove it.

Bush should have commented when he mentioned that Kerry had the same intelligence that he had, that maybe if he had shown up for one of the security council meetings where he was suppose to, he would have a leg to stand on when criticizing the intelligence and the decision.

[[AK]Camelwalk]

I'm still waiting for someone to step up and tell me how Kerry's plan for America is better.

Lets go...I'm ready.

I wish I could but I think your right. Maybe next topic? Immigration reform is one thing I think Bush is doing wrong but Kerry has no better option on this topic either! The day will come Mr. Squidly!

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I believe the word Vietnam was used once in the debate. /shrug

Yeah, he eluded to it numerous times.. for sure.

Next debate is Bush's bowl of soup.

[[AK]Sonic Boom]

Hmm, I believe my thread has been officially hijacked...

Nobody in either campaign is talking about a substantial victory on either side.

Clearly those of you who are predicting a substantial margin must be privy to better information (i.e. ridiculously expensive polling data) than the campaigns.

Based upon your unobtainium data... Three cheers to a landslide Republican across-the-board victory!

We should be popping the champagne now since, according to you guys, it's already in the bag. I prefer Dom Perignon, personally and will be sure to spread the word to my fellow unemployed countrymen that all is well and the economy nationwide is booming and we can afford it, particularly here in Seattle and for my best friends in Ohio.

North Korea has nukes under Bush's watch and nobody's willing to do anything about Iran, but Goddamit the world's safer since we didn't find WMD's in Iraq but that cocksucker Saddam is under wraps.

You guys have convinced me. I'm retracting everything negative I've ever said about GWB and the cowboy doctrine.

I'm sorry I ever doubted the Homeland Security hysteria, because I now know that making money for myself and my aging parents isn't really that important in the context of the new world order where terrorists are lurking around every corner and will blow me up if I dissent from the erosion of my liberty.

Why do I need Liberty anyway? The Republicans are here to protect me.

From here on out, I'm going to follow the Republican party line.

It's a good thing that we gut the FCC and consolidate media ownership into the hands of the powerful corporate few, all the better to consolidate the electorate with.

It's also good thing that we hire corporate lobbyists from the energy industry to write the nations energy policy. Any regulation that costs the oil industry profit must be bad by definition.

We also can't forget our God constituency, they need to have key positions dictating national science policy.

But wait! There's more! Last month seemed to be as good a month as any to propose opening untouched, pristine national forests to oil drilling, old-growth timber clear cutting, and mineral strip mining. Unfortunately this plan for progress was derailed until after the election after two million citizens complained to their elected representatives. Damn them! We'll just have to slide it by under the radar after the election.

You guys are right. I have no idea why I shouldn't be a Republican. After all, since I make under $200k a year, I got a $350 tax break last year, which I'm gong to start a business with.

You win. I concede defeat. You've finally beaten me down. Whatever could I have been thinking?

After all, as a small business owner, I'm getting all kinds of relief from the Republicans whereas Kerry wants to tax all low-dollar businesses and households into oblivion and transfer 100% of the country's tax dollars away from the entire defense and national intelligence budget and funnel it straight into welfare ghetto mothers wombs to make their offspring wealthy.

Since the North Koreans now have nuclear weapons under Bush's watch and Iran is getting pretty close, I know I can count on the Crawford Cowboy to go after them an kick ass, since the policy has worked so well on our dry run against a tinpot dictator.

I'm going to vote Republican right down the ticket. You guys win.

Whatever could I have been thinking?

[[AK]Bribo]

I'm going to vote Republican right down the ticket. You guys win.

Whatever could I have been thinking?

We knew you'd come around.

I'm predicting a marginal victory for Bush based on the current polling data.